Minimum salary expectation as a ausbilder ( Bayern ) ?

[Gast ValeriaPoliyenko]

1) should I settle down for 1000 at least ?  How do they calculate it ? Brutto calc like a normal job ?

2) Health insurance covered by them or me ? 

3) As a ausbilder am I count as a student or worker ? Do I get semester ticket like uni or schule students ?? Ausbilders also goes to schule, aren't we student too ?

 4) am I allowed to work part time somewhere let's say I'm the weekend ? 

5) Is it prohibited to do study during a ausbildung ? Let's say a paid online degree. 

Thanks in advance.

Bearbeitet 20. Oktober 2019 von greasequala

[allesweg]

Hi @greasequala what do you want to do? Be the teacher (Ausbilder) or the pupil (Auszubildender)? In both cases, fluent german will be neccessary....

If pupil: 1000€ per month is close to impossible.

Semester/pupil tickets are regulated by the local transport company, so no general answer is possible.

Additional part time work can be probhibited, but depends on a lot of individual things, so no general answer is possible.

 

 

[Thanks-and-Goodbye]

Are you mixing up Ausbilder (trainer, instructor) with Auszubildender (trainee, apprentices)?

In detail to your questions:

ad 1: trainees / apprentices do not get an salary as you are expecting. They only get an (low) apprenticeship pay. The minimum level of this pay is controlled by the local chamber of commerce. How much it is you can see in this statistical thread: https://www.fachinformatiker.de/topic/150679-azubi-gehaltsstatistik/

ad 2: health insurance is covered (german law) by both, employer and employee... it will be deducted from your brutto payment.

ad 3: see the answer of @allesweg. semester tickets are only for students, often trainees can order an discounted ticket.

at 4: the employer has to be asked, he can prohibit it. Also you have to observe german legal working times covered in our Arbeitszeitgesetz.

ad 5: it is not prohibited.

and as @allesweg allready mentioned: before you start your career in germany you should have better language skills

 

[Gast ValeriaPoliyenko]

Yes, Auszubildender, the word I was looking for. 

[tTt]

For your salary as Auszubildender (Apprenticeship) calculation search at google „brutto netto rechner“. 
Brutto is in Germany your salary before income taxes and social insurance costs (health-, workless- and nursing care insurance).

Netto is in Germany your salary after income taxes and social insurance costs. Your real usable income.

In general, as an Auszubildender you do not pay, or do pay only less income taxes. Social insurances costs you about 20-22% of your salary in Germany. Easily subtract 25% of the salary and you will get a fast, but approximate salary.

You will get some discounts as an Auszubildender while your apprenticeship in Germany, but they’re not as high as the discounts for students at an university. You should ask for an „Azubi-Ticket“ for example. 
 

To get an apprenticeship (Ausbildung), you have to apply for it at companies of your choice, if they offer your wished profession. Usally it takes 3 years, but it depends.

If you have to move to another location and can not live with your family anymore, are there some opportunities to get some support of the German state.

It’s called „Berufsausbildungsbeihilfe“. You have to fill out an application form at your local „Agentur für Arbeit“. The other supportments are „additional Arbeitslosengeld II“, or „Wohngeld“. But they are not common for trainees (Auszubildende).

You have to fill out very often an application form before any support of German state. 
 

Usually it’s not common to get a second job during your apprenticeship.

You have to ask your trainer or company first. Only if they don’t see any issues that you won’t finish your apprenticeship, they will grant it. Sometimes they won’t grant it at anytime.
You have to watch out for your working hours. In Germany/Europe it is forbidden to work permanently or median longer than 48h per week. 
As trainee in an apprenticeship you are special protected. After your successful  trial period at the company, they cannot fire you anymore very easy. 
 

studying while your apprenticeship isn’t prohibited either, but you have to look again at your 48h limit per week. Normally a german university will check your Job Status and they will regulate your maximum modules per semester.
Also a lot of universities regulate the maximum studying time and will deregister you then. 
To study at a German university you will need also a high school degree.
There are only a few possibilities to study without a high school degree in Germany, but, I think, they won’t match at your situation.

Do you already work in Germany at fulltime?

Otherwise it should be no problem to live 3 years in an apprenticeship. Maybe you have to negotiate your apprenticeship salary + time, but you will need some experiences at this profession.

The BBiG ist very reglemented to reduce your apprenticeship time.

[charmanta]

Remember that if you come from a non-eu country you will need a permit to start an "ausbildung". Also the process of this education and its tests are only offered in german. Without this permit all before mentioned options do not apply to you.

[Ma Lte]

vor 8 Stunden schrieb tTt:

If you have to move to another location and can not live with your family anymore, are there some opportunities to get some support of the German state.

It’s called „Berufsausbildungsbeihilfe“. You have to fill out an application form at your local „Agentur für Arbeit“. The other supportments are „additional Arbeitslosengeld II“, or „Wohngeld“. But they are not common for trainees (Auszubildende).

You have to fill out very often an application form before any support of German state. 

There is an important difference between "Arbeitslosengeld II" and "Wohngeld", you should know about. You only get one of them, but you have to apply for both. The difference is the period, they will be granted. If you get Arbeitslosengeld II, the period starts at the day, you applied for it. If you get Wohngeld, the period starts at the first of the month, in which you applied for it. So if you want to apply for them, you should do it as soon as possible, otherwise you could experience a bad surprise, regarding Arbeitslosengeld II. 

[charmanta]

and again this only suits for persons with a valid residence permit